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Sniper 1:15 Sun Feb 23
Employment law - redundancies and filling ‘redundant’ pists

I was made redundant by the company I worked for for 11 years last year (I was informed of being unsuccessful applying for my post in March and my 12 weeks redeployment lasted until June). It was quite a big cull - around half the team of 45 people were let go, we had 30 days consultation and so on.

However, whilst trying to look for a new role I’ve signed up to a number of agencies and one role that has been recommended to me is...

My old job. On the same team. With the same manager. The post even says they are ‘looking to take on a number of staff on a fixed term role for 12 months with a view to making some permanent’

Is there a timescale for when a redundant post magically becomes needed again?

Sniper 1:15 Thu Feb 27
Re: Employment law - redundancies and filling ‘redundant’ pists

Thanks Rios

Not just me either - there was a bunch of people let go. Pretty shit all round really.

riosleftsock 11:20 Tue Feb 25
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Razzle

I've been contracting for the last 5 years, and you're right, the pay is much better and I've enjoyed not having to swallow the corporate bull.

However, that all changes at the end of next month when the IR35 changes hit.

I'll probably have to go back to PAYE as there is no advantage in being self-employed as far as I can see.

Razzle 11:18 Tue Feb 25
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Go back on contract - you know the systems and culture. As a contractor youll earn far more the being a perm

riosleftsock 11:05 Tue Feb 25
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That's pretty shitty Sniper.

Depending on what your role was and what your dept and company does, you may well have a claim against them. You should certainly get some professional advice.

Hope you found something else in the meantime, if not yet, good luck with the jobhunt.

Pickle Rick 11:03 Tue Feb 25
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You need to get advice as they could say its a different role that you didn't meet the 70% or whatever requirement to carry be successful after re-applying, or read it as they wanted to get rid of you so they changed it just enough that you wouldn't get it and there is nothing you can do about it when the re-advertise, even if your pride was rock bottom and you applied your application would probably get filed WPB.

Exiled In Surrey 10:48 Tue Feb 25
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Get your union involved.

Side of Ham 7:12 Sun Feb 23
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I didn’t reply to you, you cunt I pointed out what a cunt you are now backed up by your second post.

Just because you are obviously on some spectrum doesn’t mean you can’t be pulled up on your lowlife postings on here.

Manuel 6:56 Sun Feb 23
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Put the violin away, Snide. I need to be ignored yet you respond to my post? Oh I'm sorry, you was just warning others, lol. Never seizes to amaze me how seriously some treat this forum still even after all these years. Go fuck yourself.

Side of Ham 6:23 Sun Feb 23
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Manuel 5:48 Sun Feb 23

Proof this poster is a cunt and needs to be ignored if that’s how he treats someone down on his luck.....and a fellow West Ham fan to boot.....

Spandex Sidney 6:02 Sun Feb 23
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You could speak to ACAS. Or you can just move on?

Or maybe do both?

However if you do speak to ACAS you will be blackballed from here as you're clearly a leftist shitbag who has no rightful place in the 1000 years WHO Reich that has now been gloriously established.

Westside 5:59 Sun Feb 23
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Westside 12:33 Sun Feb 23

That refers to giving the redundant person their old job back.

No, the article also refers to giving the position to anybody.

"The employer is under no obligation to offer the redundant employee their job back; it is entitled to recruit someone else instead."

About the 5th line of the article. Did you actually read the articie?

Sxboy_66 5:49 Sun Feb 23
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Westside 12:33 Sun Feb 23

That refers to giving the redundant person their old job back.

That isn't what's happened here.

Manuel 5:48 Sun Feb 23
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You can't and won't do a single thing about it. Stop wasting everyone's time and move on ffs. Life aint like a movie.

Vexed 5:40 Sun Feb 23
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Name and shame the firm then. You don't work there no more, look unlikely to have any legal recourse, they're cunts - let the world know!

This is all because of them touch screens in McDonald's isnt it? Bang out of order.

gank 5:37 Sun Feb 23
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Just let it go, Sniper. If you think they're all a bunch of cunts then you're best off out of there, don't waste your time worrying about it.

Sniper 5:32 Sun Feb 23
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I have zero interest in reapplying first the job and it was fucking horrible for the 30 days ‘consultation’ (which, as most of you know, translates as ‘ask any questions you want but we’ve made our minds up’) then the period of all applying against each other and then coming in to work every day for 3 months whilst trying to find something else

When the results of the interviews were being made, I called all but two of who would/wouldn’t be kept on. It was obvious. I don’t even dispute that the people who got the job ahead of me were better - but it’s fucking shit all the stress and worry they put all of us through to then, 6 months later, be recruiting again to the exact same posts

That’s bullshit

Westside 12:33 Sun Feb 23
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it's the position, which then cannot be recreated for 6 months.

Not true. There is no statutory time limit, on re creating the position.

https://www.xperthr.co.uk/faq/is-an-employer-obliged-to-wait-a-certain-period-of-time-before-re-employing-an-employee-who-was-dismissed-for-redundancy/87445/

Sxboy_66 10:59 Sun Feb 23
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It's not the person that is made redundant, it's the position, which then cannot be recreated for 6 months.

They've covered their arse legally mate. They're just ethically utter cunts.

Sven Roeder 10:51 Sun Feb 23
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When you were made redundant you would have been given access to legal advice (which the company pays for) so that it can be said you were properly advised.
If you still have the contact it’s worth dropping them an email and pointing out the situation.
They might give you some advice (if they are decent lawyers) or take an interest (if they are ambulance chasers who see some business).

Toe Rag 10:51 Sun Feb 23
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So. You’re situation is uncannily similar to that of Moyes about 6 months ago.

I think there’s a lesson in here somewhere.

Westside 10:39 Sun Feb 23
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Sniper isn't saying he w want his old job back (he may).

However, if redundancy was used as an excuse for dismissal and the old job still genuinely exists, he can file a claim for unfair dismissal. The compensation for which, would be substantially higher, than statutory redundancy pay.

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